Today on the show, I’m chatting with Katherine Willis Pershey, pastor, storyteller, raconteuse¬† and one of my new favorite authors. Her book, “Very Married” is my favorite marriage resource… ever!


Today’s episode is what happens with two marriage geeks sit down and chat! We talk about living wholeheartedly in our marriage, what happens when one of us get has a crush, what is our responsibility to seek justice for those on the margins who desire whole and healthy marriage, and how we’re choosing to befriend the things our husbands do that we don’t love as an act of hopeful resistance in our marriage.

It’s a really great conversation and I hope you listen.

Links we mention in the episode:

Hot Bean Water

How to Find Katherine Online




Shalom and Untying Knots in my Marriage,